PmMeYourCats Posted May 5, 2016 Posted May 5, 2016 1940 dated projectile which makes me think it was made up from stock. Has remains of yellow paint amd white writing. 1
Field Marshall Lenny Posted May 9, 2016 Field Marshall Posted May 9, 2016 What do you mean "made up from stock" ???? It's perfectly normal when this was originally made up, there could be a mismatch of a year from the projectile to the case.
Davejb Posted May 10, 2016 Posted May 10, 2016 Have you checked to make sure this is,nt a live round, the primer caps still in place, theres no band distortion that I can see and it looks very tight on the casing 3
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 10, 2016 Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Well......you need a vice.....hammer.....and a nail.... @HetzersGonnaHetz. No don't Edited May 10, 2016 by Fred Karno's Army
Davejb Posted May 10, 2016 Posted May 10, 2016 Very carefully, I would first find out the original weight of a live one then weigh the one you have, compare them, See if the head is loose and if theres any play in the fit. But this is all fraught with danger, especially if it turns out to be live. If you have any doubt over ordnance of any description you should take it to the police or call Bomb Disposal, at least that way you wont be in for a lengthy period of questioning, if they found out themselves that you had live ordnance, your in for a hard time and prosecution, possibly under the Terrorism Act 3
Davejb Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Unfortunately many accidents have occurred for taking someones word that an item was safe, I would ask Steve T to have a look at this, and get his opinion. In the meantime please do not attempt to remove the head or leave it where it can fall over,roll off etc, and try not to stand it on its base. I hope I,m wrong but theres something about this one that gives me a very uneasy feeling. I think its best to be safer than sorry and Steve will be able to offer some firm advice 2
PmMeYourCats Posted May 11, 2016 Author Posted May 11, 2016 Thanks mate, really feel uneasy now. What should I do?
Davejb Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Wait till Steve has a look , he,ll more than likely ask some questions about it, but dont worry too much, lets see how he views it, as I say I might be wrong, Steve might see something I,m missing, He,s the go to guy when it comes to ordnance, its just when I see a base that appears its not been fired, it raises questions with me. Steve might have a completely different opinion. Just put it out of the way, where no-one can get to it,until he responds. If it is deactivated then you,ll have a very nice piece for display. But you should never take someones word that an item is 100% safe, especially when dealing with these shells. I would feel a little happier if there were holes drilled at the side of the casing, but thats just me.
PmMeYourCats Posted May 11, 2016 Author Posted May 11, 2016 Found out how it was inerted. The base was cut off around the groove and it was reattached after being emptied. The stuff I thought was corrosion is glue.
Guest Fred Karno's Army Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Do you mean the primer ?,as I wasn't aware you could empty primers in that way ?.Not the first time I have been wrong though and won't be the last.........
Steve T Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 It can't have been deact'd by cutting it across the groove. The flash holes for the primer are above the groove, so cutting it there would a) be damn stupid as the primer compound is highly sensitive and b) it would not allow you to access the body of the cartridge containing the main charge. Having thought about it, c) what fool would cut a cartridge THROUGH the propellent??? Still don't like this as an 'inert' cartridge. I'm changing the status of this thread until we can be sure. 6
Field Marshall Lenny Posted May 11, 2016 Field Marshall Posted May 11, 2016 Listen to the guys advice @PmMeYourCats, this is serious....
Steve T Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Can you take close up pictures of where the seller says they cut the cartridge through please. I would advise that first you use a tough scourer, (one of those made of stainless steel ribbon), or a Brillo pad to remove the corrosion/glue around the cut line to expose the cut. 1
Steve T Posted May 12, 2016 Posted May 12, 2016 Every single ground dug cartridge I recover has 'corrosion' in the same places as this cartridge. You need to clear away the stuff around the belt and rim. Best thing to use is a wire brush wheel on an electric drill. Alternatively, just use a wire brush or, as suggested above, a tough scourer.
PmMeYourCats Posted May 13, 2016 Author Posted May 13, 2016 There is a rattle coming from the case. Someone has put something inside it.
Steve T Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Marvellous!!! That's all we need to know Very nice INERT brass 20mm Solothurn with original projectile. Risk of closure lifted 2
PmMeYourCats Posted May 13, 2016 Author Posted May 13, 2016 Gave it a good shake and I heard a rattle. Must be something big since it doesn't have a lot of clearance.
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