M40 ND Q66 Lot # DN535

[Tre Kronor]

Hello folks! My first post on here and I would like to show you my minty M40 ND helmet. It is a late war produced rear stamped Q66 DN535. Never before in a collection. The previous owner who found it on his grandmother's attic posted this one upp for sale in a buy/sell militaria group on FB luckily for me no one else apparently knew what he had so I got a very good deal. But the helmet had a drawstring on the pics he sent me a little loose but still there, when it arrived the string was no show I guess to a non collector a lost string does not sound like a big deal but I was on him like crazy asking him to trying to find the damn string LOL
Anyway here's the helmet!

Regards!

[Davejb]

 Very nice helmet with a cracking liner, but the chinstrap has me puzzled, the National Business Number introduced after 1942 and stamped  RBnr was the standard marking followed by a number denoting the makers code, yours has RF which I dont recognise as I cannot find it in the listings I have, do you have any details on this

[Tre Kronor]

26 minutes ago, Davejb said:

 Very nice helmet with a cracking liner, but the chinstrap has me puzzled, the National Business Number introduced after 1942 and stamped  RBnr was the standard marking followed by a number denoting the makers code, yours has RF which I dont recognise as I cannot find it in the listings I have, do you have any details on this

Thank you Dave. Glad you like it.
As I understand it, it stands for Reich Fabrik Nummer instead of the RBNr Reichs Betriebs Nummer
This makers straps is stamped like this and as I have read SCHUBERTH-WERK is the maker.
If you are a member on the walhalla forum there are plenty of reference straps with this maker code.
I include a photo of the buckle for you to see.

[Davejb]

Thanks for that, I knew that the strap was a genuine one but the number designation puzzled me, Theres no mention of it in all the helmet sites I visited nor my lists, I,ll add it to mine, cheers Dave

[DAK D]

Hi @Tre Kronor,

Wow that's a super example of an ND Quist M40 thanks for sharing

D

 

[Tre Kronor]

Thank you DAK D!

[Bil4338]

Quite superb helmet, lovely liner and chinstrap too.the RF # has puzzled me also, but I came to the conclusion it was a late war variation/update on the RB number.

[DAK D]

12 hours ago, Bil4338 said:

Quite superb helmet, lovely liner and chinstrap too.the RF # has puzzled me also, but I came to the conclusion it was a late war variation/update on the RB number.

Hi @Bil4338,

That's exactly what the RF number was mate

D

[Manu Della Valle]

The RFNr is 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% LEGIT!
Cracking lid,btw!

 

[Tre Kronor]

Thank you Manu Della Valle!

Cheers!

 

[Manu Della Valle]

On 10/6/2016 at 13:24, Tre Kronor said:

Thank you Manu Della Valle!

Cheers!

 

You're welcome @Tre Kronor !The RFNr is but a variation of the RBNr and it just means REICHS FABRIK/FIRMEN NUMMER whereas RBNr means REICH BETREIBS NUMMER...as simple as that!
Cheers
Manu

[Davejb]

You learn something every day!!!

[DAK D]

I have seen RB numbered tropical uniform items dated 1942 and the RF number system used on 1943 and 44 uniform items.

This is a photo of an 1944 made tropical M40 peaked cap. I owned a 1943 dated RF numbered M40, so there is evidence that the RB/RF codes were really the just the same thing.

D

[Manu Della Valle]

It's just "Company" under another name!
ReichsBETRIEB(Company)Nummer    vs.    Reichs FABRIK/FIRMA nummer
Cheers
M